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Is there any evidence of Tolkien's familiarity with German Romantic Lieder, or directly with the German poetry of the late 18th, early 19th centuries (Goethe, Schiller, etc.) on which these were based?  I can't find any references in Hammond and Scull.

Date: 2016-11-30 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreiviertel.livejournal.com
I don't know although my hunch would be to say yes. Would you like to ask on the Tolkien Society FB webpage? It is frequented by John Garth, Dimitra Fimi and many other Tolkien scholars who may well have the answer. I would be curious too.

Date: 2016-11-30 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreiviertel.livejournal.com
Right on cue:
(this post was forwarded to the TS page)

If anyone knows about it, it would be a German author on a book on Tolkien the Romantic. Definitely in my to-read list.

Date: 2016-11-30 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arda-unmarred.livejournal.com
Wow! This is great, and terrible at the same time. I thought I was on to something genuinely new, but clearly someone's beat me to it! Based on this: https://www.tolkiengesellschaft.de/18700/j-r-r-tolkien-romantiker-und-lyriker/ I might as well bin the section I've been working on for the last week, because it's clearly something that he treats at much more length. I'll go cry in a corner now.

Date: 2016-11-30 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arda-unmarred.livejournal.com
Update: the author has proved to be very forthcoming, so I will probably end up referring to his work to bolster my own analysis, instead of giving up altogether. His book does confirm that this is an entirely new line of inquiry, so I have not laboured entirely in vain.

Date: 2016-11-30 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreiviertel.livejournal.com
Great! I was going to say that your research is unlikely to be identical in any event. I can't wait to read both his book and yours!

Date: 2016-11-30 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arda-unmarred.livejournal.com
Well, unlike his, mine will be a long while yet, probably long enough for several more books to appear in the interim pre-empting all my ideas ;)


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